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Nauvoo, Illinois · April 7, 1844
The King Follett Discourse
Delivered by Joseph Smith at the funeral of Elder King Follett during the Church's April
1844 general conference, this sermon on the nature of God, the eternity of the mind, and becoming like
God is among the most studied — and most debated — discourses in Latter-day Saint history. No single
official transcript exists; instead, four Church clerks and leaders took their own notes as they
listened. This page lets you read and compare those four eyewitness accounts side by side.
Illustration: Joseph Smith preaching, via mormonismexplained.org — an artistic modern depiction; no
photograph of the 1844 event exists.
OpeningProphetic
AuthorityElohim / Council of
GodsGod Once a ManEternal
ProgressionIntelligence
Thomas Bullock
Thomas Bullock
General Church Clerk — the account later used as the base text for History of
the Church, vol. 6.
"The Prophet — while I address you on the subject which in the fore part of
the conference was contemplated — as the wind blows very hard, it will be hardly possible
for me to make you all hear. It is of the greatest importance, and the most solemn of any
that could occupy our attention, and that is the subject of the dead: on the decease of our
brother Follet[t] [King Follett], who was
crushed to death in a well. And inasmuch as there are a great many in this congregation who
live in this city, and who have lost friends, I shall speak in general, and offer you my
ideas so far as I have ability, and so far as I shall be inspired by the Holy Spirit to
dwell on this subject. I want your prayer, faith, and instruction of Almighty God, to say
things that are true, and shall carry the testimony to your hearts; and pray that he may
strengthen my lungs, stay the winds, and let the prayers of the Saints to heaven appear —
for the prayers of the righteous avail much — and I verily believe that your prayers shall
be heard, before I enter fully into the investigation of the subject that is lying before
us. I wish to make a few preliminar[y remarks]."
"I do not calculate to please your ears with oratory or with much learning,
but I calculate to edify you with simple truths from Heaven... Ninety-nine of a hundred [who
claim revelation falsely] are false
prophets, and [to try to put down every one of them by force] would deluge the
whole world with blood. I want you all to know God, to be familiar with him; and if I can
bring you to him, all persecution against me will cease, and [you will] know that I am his
servant, for I speak as one having authority, and not as a scribe. Open your ears and eyes,
all ye ends of the earth, and hear; for I am going to prove it to you with the Bible, and I
am going to tell you the designs of God to the human race, and why he interferes with the
affairs of man."
"I shall turn commentator today. I shall go to the first Hebrew word in the
Bible — the first sentence: 'In the beginning.' Berosheet — [that is] 'in,' 'by,' 'through,'
and everything else. Rosh, the head. When the inspired man wrote it, he did not put the
first point to it — a man, a Jew, without any authority, thought it too bad to begin to talk
about the head of any man, [so it would not read]: 'The Head One of the Gods brought forth [the Gods].'"
Bullock's notes reach this same doctrine only after first laying the Hebrew
groundwork above (the "Head One of the Gods"). His fuller statement continues a little
further into the manuscript than this excerpt set goes.
"They shall be heirs of God, and joint heirs of Jesus Christ, to inherit the
same power [and] exaltation, until you
ascend the throne of eternal power, the same as those who are gone before. What [Jesus] did,
I do the things I saw my Father do, before worlds came rolled into existence. I saw my
Father work out his kingdom with fear and trembling, and I must do the same — when I shall
give my kingdom to the Father, so that he obtains kingdom rolling upon kingdom, so that
Jesus treads in his tracks, as he had gone before."
"So — I am going to tell of things more noble. We say that God himself is a
self-existing God — who told you so? How did it get into your head? Who told you that man
did not exist in like manner? How does it read in the Hebrew — that God made man, and put
into him Adam's spirit, and so he became a living spirit? The mind of man is as immortal as
God himself. Hence, while I talk to these mourners — [know that] they are only separated
from their bodies for a short period; their spirits coexisted with God, and now converse
with one another the same as we do... I take my ring from my finger and liken it unto the
mind of man."
"Joseph commenced speaking on the subject of the Dead — relative to the death
of Elder King Follett, who was crushed [to
death] in a well by the falling of a tub of rock on him."
"If I am so fortunate as to comprehend and explain [this] — let every one sit
in silence, and never lift your voice against the servants of God again. Every man has a
right to be a false prophet as well
as..."
"The head — the head one. The head one of the Gods brought forth the Gods. [Let the] doctor and lawyer that
have persecuted [take note]: the head one called the Gods together in grand council, to
bring forth the world."
"If men do not comprehend the character of God, they do not comprehend
themselves. What kind of a being is God? Eternal
life is to know God. If man does not know God, he has not eternal life."
"...and ascend a throne, as those who have gone before. I saw the Father work
out his kingdom with fear and trembling. God is gratified in [the] salvation [and] exaltation of his creations — not all to be
comprehended in this world."
"Who told you God was self-existent? Correct enough — in Hebrew [it reads
that he] put into him his spirit, which was created before. Mind of man co-equal with God
himself. Friends separated for a small moment from their spirits [are] co-equal with God,
and hold conversation when they are one with another. If man had a beginning, he must have
an end... Intelligence exists upon a
self-existent principle — no creation about it."
"President J[oseph] Smith called the attention of the conference upon the
subject contemplated in the fore part of the conference — as the wind blows hard it will be
impossible to make [all] hear unless [with] profound attention. Subject of the greatest
importance, and most solemn that could occupy our attention: the subject of the dead. [I]
have been requested to speak on the subject, on the decease of Brother Follet[t] [King Follett], who was crushed to death,
&c. I have been requested to speak by his friends and relatives, and inasmuch as [there
are a] great many here in [the] congregation who live in this city as well as elsewhere who
have deceased friends, [I] feel disposed to speak on the subject in general, and offer my
ideas as far as [my] ability [allows]."
"If I comprehend [it] so that the Spirit seal[s] it upon your hearts, let
every man and woman put his hand on his mouth and never say anything against the man of God
again. But if I fail, it becomes my duty to renounce all my pretensions to inspiration,
&c. — and if I should do so, should I not be as bad as all the rest of the world? Not a
man would breathe anathema if they knew I was a false prophet; some would take my life. If any man is
authorized to take my life because I am a false teacher, then upon the same principle am I
authorized to take the life of every false teacher..."
"I will go to the old Bible, the very Berosheit — [and] make a comment on the
first sentence of the history of creation. Berosheit, Ba — [I] want to analyze the word. Ba:
in, by, through, and everything else. Rosh: next, the head. Sheet: where does it come from?
When the inspired man wrote it, he did not put the Ba there, but a Jew put it there. It
read, in the first: 'The Head One of the Gods
brought forth the Gods' — is the true meaning. Rosheit signifies to bring forth the Elohim."
Clayton's diary works through the Hebrew word-study first (see "Elohim /
Council of Gods," left) before restating this doctrine plainly — that portion isn't included
in this excerpt set. Read on in the full manuscript.
"Said Jesus (mark it, Brother [Sidney] Rigdon) — what did Jesus say? As the
Father hath power in himself, even so hath the Son power, to do what? Why, what the Father
did: to lay down his body and take it up again. Jesus, what are you going to do? To lay down
my life as my Father did, that I might take it up again. If you deny it, you deny the
Bible... You have got to learn how to be a god yourself, in order to save yourself — to be
priests and kings..."
Clayton's diary entry for this part of the discourse is brief; the fuller
statement on the eternity of intelligence is best compared using the Bullock and Richards
accounts (left). Read on in the full manuscript.
"I now call the attention of this congregation while I address you upon the
subject of the dead. The case of our beloved brother King Follett, who was crushed to death in a well, as well
as many others who have lost friends, will be had in mind this afternoon, and [I] shall
speak upon the subject in general, as far as I shall be inspired by the Holy Spirit to treat
upon the subject. I want the prayers and faith of the Saints that I may have the Holy Ghost,
that the testimony may carry conviction to your minds of the truth of what I shall say, and
pray that the Lord may strengthen my lungs — there is strength here, your prayers will be
heard. Before I enter upon an investigation of this subject..."
Woodruff's condensed minutes move directly from the opening prayer into the
doctrine of God (right), without recording this passage on prophetic authority — typical of
his account, roughly a third the length of Bullock's. Compare the other three columns for
this topic.
"Barasheet, in the beginning. Analyze the word — in and through the head. An
old Jew added the word [aleph]; it read the Head One of the Gods, brought forth the Gods... The grand council sat at the
head, and contemplated the creation of the world."
"...this is all man knows about God or his existence, except what is given by
the inspiration of the Almighty. Go then to the beginning, that you may understand. I ask
this congregation: what kind of a being is God? Turn your thoughts in your hearts, and say —
have any of you seen or heard him, or communed with him?... The scriptures inform us that this is eternal life — to
know the only wise God and Jesus Christ whom he has sent... In order to understand the dead,
for the consolation of those that mourn, I want you to understand God, and how he comes to
be God. We suppose that God was God from eternity; I will refute that idea... It is the
first principle [for us] to know, that we may converse with him, and that he once was a man
like us, and the Father was once on an earth like us."
"The scriptures inform us — mark it — that Jesus Christ said: as the Father
hath power in himself, so hath the Son power in himself, to do what the..."
Woodruff's abbreviated notes do not separately restate the "mind co-equal
with God" teaching within this excerpt set — compare the Bullock and Richards columns, which
record it directly.
This page presents six representative, aligned passages — not the complete ~2½-hour
discourse. Spelling and punctuation have been lightly regularized for readability; bracketed words
clarify the original manuscript abbreviations. All four excerpts are transcribed from the original
manuscripts by The Joseph Smith Papers Project. Read the complete accounts and the
surrounding historical context there.